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Saturday, 19 February 2011

An Honest Dilemma!

Poll Result Observations.



"If you were a Banker would you accept the bonus millions?"
Honestly, yes.   76 (83%)
 No, I'm Labour(sic)
o, I'm Labour (sic).   1 (1%)
 
No, it's greedy.  4 (4%)
 Probably.  11 (12%)

I was relatively heartened by the honesty of 76% of the voters in my latest poll. However the human trait it shows also tells us of the mass hypocrisy that dominates MSM political offerings. The Labour stance on social order is of equality regardless of ability. The Right, (once the Tory stance but a disappearing philosophy in the Party) once a sensible supporter of the true nature of human beings, are showing a public face on bankers' bonuses and salaries contrary to the poll findings. It's only my little old blog but still more worthy of scrutiny than much of what is to be seen from the political establishment and wealthy Labour camp, in particular.
Does hypocrisy matter? ask Mubarak!







14 comments:

Angry Exile said...

4 trolls and 1 pulling your chain I reckon.

Oldrightie said...

You, cynical, AE? Nice one!

Caratacus said...

Not sure where I figure in your poll OR - I clicked on "No, it's greedy", and I stand by that. I make enough to live on, enough to do what I want to do and enough to help those people (family, friends and charities as necessary) I want to.

Nothing particularly virtuous in this, in fact it may even be selfish - I will not give ANYONE a handle on me; nothing they can point to and say "we own that part of you". Never have, unlikely to in the future.

In the unlikely event that I found myself in possession of a fortune (and no need of a replacement memsahib), the RNLI would suddenly find that their boat replacement programme had found new legs, and the RB Legion temporarily less reliant on the sale of poppies for a while.

I may be persuaded to divert some of the funds to the engagement of a 4 man team from Poole (on leave and bored) who would be detailed to kidnap Lady Mandelbum, tar + feather him, and suspend him from a lamp-post outside the Hse of Lords one sunny Sunday morn...

Angry Exile said...

Sorry, Caratacus. 3 trolls. Though in fairness your answer does suggest you would accept the money, or how else could you give it to the RNLI?

Caratacus said...

AE - nope. If Great Aunt Hermione popped her clogs while exploring the depths of the Limpopo, or the memsahib's infrequent flutter on the lottery came up trumps then a fortune may come my way. If anyone ever offers me something for nothing I always look into the back of their eyes for whatever else may be lurking there.

There is much pleasure to be had by refusing bribes, inducements etc. I like setting the bastards back on their heels...!

See - no virtue, just a contrary nature.

Oldrightie said...

I sort of understand the stance taken by Caratacus. 30 years ago I felt the same, probably still do. My point is that in the modern world the greed overwhelms the morality and we are all in danger of infection.

Angry Exile said...

I sort of do too, but bonuses are not a bribe or something for nothing but a reward for performance. Yes, some are awarded for doing really not very much at all, but that's a matter for the board and shareholders and in any case doesn't stop an individual from choosing to work his arse off for it anyway. Perhaps he wants to be able to give most of it to the RNLI or the Legion.

I don't think we should lose much sleep over greed. It's material manifestation of self-interest, and self-interest touches almost every possible action by any living thing (I say almost because I'm allowing for the possibility of an exception even though I can't think of one). Even charitable giving is not entirely selfless - it makes us feel good in various ways, either about ourselves or about the world or that its good for one's karma, whatever. But if being charitable made us feel bad we'd stop doing it. And if being motivated by material things to make lots of money, and you have more to give to charity as a result, I'd agree with Gordon Gecko that greed is good. Or at least that it can be.

Caratacus said...

See where you're coming from AE, thanks for explaining.

For nearly all my life I've set my face against the flow. Just one of those things (my mother reckons it has something to do my father dying when I was young and my taking up the reins of adulthood too early). Whatever, if most people think something is good my instinct is to avoid it. If the general consensus is in one direction, I'll choose another. If most people agree that every man has his price, I make damn certain that I don't have one. Such a contrary attitude may not have won me many friends over the years but those I do have are worth more than gold. The greatest of those friends is, of course, the redoubtable Memsahib!

AE - if you know of a banker who has given his spoils to charity I would be intrigued to hear of it. But then good deeds only count if you're not found out..!

Angry Exile said...

Caratacus, I can understand going against the flow. Your instinct sounds like healthy scepticism to me, or at the least it has the same effect.

I don't know any bankers so I can't name one but it's far from unheard of for wealthy people to adopt causes and shovel money at them. I would be astonished if there are no bankers that do it too. I imagine that if you're fortunate enough to make money faster than you can spend it once you've got the rich man's toys, the surgically enhanced younger second wife and the epic cocaine habit (none of which I desire) you reach a point where the numbers in your bank accounts are just a scorecard, and making the ridiculous sums of money become more important than keeping them. Andrew Carnegie is almost the archetype, though as I recall philanthropy had been his aim from before he became wealthy. Bill Gates is a more contemporary example. The thing is that the role of wealthy philanthropist is very difficult without the wealth part.

Oldrightie said...

"wealthy philanthropist is very difficult without the wealth part."

"The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists"

Didn't really work, either!

Angry Exile said...

That's one I didn't have to pretend to read in English Lit. I was too busy pretending to read Lord of the Flies and To Kill A Mockingbird instead :-)

Caratacus said...

OR + AE - thanks for giving me much to ponder on as I travel about the SW this coming week :)

I'm very lucky - I'm self-employed, doing work that I enjoy hugely. The rewards, while not massive, are ample for my needs and there are no bloody management meetings to attend (a brief one-to-one with my faithful hound seems to suffice these days, and produces more sense than any I attended during my illustrious career in middle and higher management in the LPG industry).

Incidentally AE, my roadside companion is half kelpie (Australian cattle dog) and his earthy good humour is a welcome diversion while listening to PMQs on a Wednesday p.m!

May your various fields of human endeavour bring you both as much joy this week!

A bientot mes amis...

Angry Exile said...

I've seen a few kelpies and kelpie crosses out walking our Bitzer. Nice dogs. Seem to be pretty bright and good and learning what you want from them, but I suppose that's natural with a dog bred for any kind of work. I might be generalising but all sheep/cattle dogs seem to be that way from what I've seen.

Oldrightie said...

We class our Doberman in this category, AE. Lovely girl.