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Thursday, 23 July 2009

The Afghan Nightmare. A Quote.

MALALAI JOYA, MP, AFGHAN PARLIAMENT, ON THE OCCUPATION:


With acknowledgement to "Socialist Unity"



“Just like in Iraq, war has not brought liberation to Afghanistan. Neither war was really about democracy or justice or uprooting terrorist groups;rather they were and are about U.S. strategic interests in the region. We Afghans have never liked being pawns in the ‘Great Game’ of empire, as the British and the Soviets learned in the past century.
It is a shame that so much of Afghanistan’s reality has been kept veiled by a western media consensus in support of the ‘good war.’ Perhaps if the citizens of North America had been better informed about my country, President Obama would not have dared to send more troops and spend taxpayers’ money on a war that is only adding to the suffering of our people and pushing the region into deeper conflicts.
A troop ‘surge’ in Afghanistan, and continued air strikes, will do nothing to help the liberation of Afghan women. The only thing it will do is increase the number of civilian casualties and increase the resistance to occupation.
To really help Afghan women, citizens in the U.S. and elsewhere must tell their government to stop propping up and covering for a regime of warlords and extremists. If these thugs were finally brought to justice, Afghan women and men would prove quite capable of helping ourselves.”


No point saying much, is there? They're all on their jolly hols.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Surely The Saviour of The World understands this? Must do, mustn't he?

Goodnight Vienna said...

Political chicanery & back-room deals, the arms business & energy supplies. Says it all really.

Oldrightie said...

Sadly, it does, GV. I used to tire, on Guido's blog, of the Atlas posts but now I'm going his way, too!

Anonymous said...

"If these thugs were finally brought to justice"

How do you do that then what with the
oldrightie crew of cowards waving the white flag.

The stab the British forces in the back Brigade.

Phil said...

And just how is bringing our men and women home to their lonely families stabbing them in the back? I think you'll find that's called doing them a favour.

Trouble is, you would need a brain cell to realise that though. Anonyprick, you are rather like the Nazi sympathisers during the war, secretly undermining the entire war and trying to bring down the resistance. Total monkey brains.

Demetrius said...

See William Nott in Wikipedia. One of the intriguing aspects of the present campaign is the number of people normally "hawks" who are calling for an end to it. It is not stabbing our men in the back, it is admitting the reality.

Oldrightie said...

I weary of this anonymouse line of argument. I support deeply our troops and their brilliant efforts. I do not support the reasons and political egotistical arrogance that has placed them there. Whilst our soldiers are dying, our criminals in Government permit every rotten being on the planet into our Country to threaten us through criminality and the leeching of our bankrupt services.
Why not have a leftie Brigade of anonymouse volunteers to go and fight over there, if the cause is so special? Just as they fought in Spain. They did lose, mind you.
Thank you Phil, for your fine interevention.

Oldrightie said...

Thank you also, Demetrius. It really is unwinnable.

Oldrightie said...

Now Aintworthalot admits we were not prepared and do not have sufficient helicopters. Totally opposite to Jimbo Snot. Unbelieveable.

Sue said...

I wouldn't take any notice of anonymouse, he's the biggest coward of them all. He's even too scared to face people over the internet with an ID.

I agree with you. This war is about government greed.
They have huge untapped natural resources, including gems, gold, copper, coal and natural gas

It's so obvious, it's embarrassing!

CrazyDaisy said...

Well this power crazed Union of nothingness will pretend it's still got a fucking Empire, deluded cunts.

I'd turn in my grave if they covered my box in the Butcher's Apron - only a fine silk Saltire will do for me, alive or deed.

Saor Alba

Crazy D

Oldrightie said...

CD, I rather think you Scottish chaps played a large role in Empire building! You are also most fortunate in not having Jimmy as your leader. I really would prefer Alec!
Sue, thank you for that.

Jim Baxter said...

OR,

I rather think we did. We had tired of porridge and kail and wanted to try some roast beef with gravy and taking the King's Shilling was our best chance.

This war is not winnable. It is uterly dishonest. Like you I have nothing but admiration and support for our forces. It's our politicains I, er, 'don't support'. Have I said that before? Just said it again then.

Jim Baxter said...

OK, the Queen's Shilling.

Oldrightie said...

Cheers, Jim! Baxter, not JGB!

Jim Baxter said...

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The pound buys a penny’s worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a cricket bat under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be! We know things are bad - worse than bad, They're crazy! It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my Mondeo and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone!'

Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone! I want you to get MAD! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your MP because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the war and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad! You've got to say, "I'm a HUMAN BEING, GODDAMNIT! My LIFE has VALUE!!" So, I want you to sit down now, I want all of you sit down in your chairs. I want you to sit down now, and get onto a blog, and yell: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!" ' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the war and this dreadful government But first sit in your chairs, get on a blog yell, and say it: I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!~

killemallletgodsortemout said...

The irony of this war in Afghanistan is that our lads are trying to wipe out the Taleban, and all the time Jimmy McSnot, NuLabour and loads of anonymice are encouraging the bastards to come over here.

C*nts.

Oldrightie said...

I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I AM GOING TO CARRY ON BEING SO UNTIL THINGS GET BETTER!

How's that, JB?

killemallletgodsortemout

Doesn't make sense but it is absolute. Then it is Labour.

Jim Baxter said...

OR.

That will do.

Apologies - but also big hat tip -to the late Paddy Chayefsky, to Sydney Lumet, the late Peter Finch, and all who worked on the mighty film 'Network'.

subrosa said...

May I firstly congratulate my pal Jim for surviving his withdrawal from all things. Glad to read your words my dear man.

Seondly, OR, no troops from the west will affect the way this culture recognises women. On a very temporary basis, and for their own ends, yes - but the culture is very much male dominated. No guns or EID's will change that.

We've nothing to give to these countries until they settle their differences and ask for our help. Until then we should stay outside of their culture arguments.

The reason we should withdraw our troops.

Jim Baxter said...

Thank you Rosy. That is very kind of you and much appreciated. I'll be back on your site soon - that's the bad news - for you. Only fair to warn you.

I owe my survival to Strathclyde Police. We all owe them a lot who live under their remit and seldom thank them. So I'll thank them now.

Oldrightie said...

Jim Bax, you sound as if you might be going through a period similar to I experienced some 29 years ago. If that is the case, hang on in there, it really does get better. Then we may also see this Labour bunch decimated. Who'd have thought we would see that hoon, Hoon, made to blush on tele!